THE EUROPEAN FAMILY DEBATE: JAPAN, ITALY, AND GAY MARRIAGE: Maggie Gallagher replies to Josh Jasper

The Italian pattern is vastly different from either the Anglo or the Scandinavian one. Any family scholar will tell you that.

Most children are born in wedlock and most marriages still last. But yes, both divorce and out-of-wedlock births are rising there. You can say the same thing about Portugal and Spain, although OWB are at a higher level (closer to 20 percent, not 10 percent).

Japan actually has a similar pattern: relatively low divorce rates, low out of wedlock birth rates, and rapid depopulation.

If you want me to say that marriage is in trouble in countries that don't have gay marriage, I'm happy to do so. But it's not a retraction. I've been saying it for years.

If you understand the argument to be, "Gay marriage is the ONLY reason marriage is in trouble," I have no problem agreeing with you that that is a pretty stupid idea.
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