EUROPEAN FAMILY DEBATE: Jari Koskisuu replies to Maggie Gallagher and Stanley Kurtz
The basic question still remains unanswered: If gay marriage or other kinds of legal recognition (civil unions, registered partnerships) destroyed marriage in Scandinavia,
as Stanley Kurtz says, how can we explain that precisely the same changes in terms of marriage happened in Finland, where gay unions were recognized as late as 2002? Gay marriage somehow trickled over the border and destroyed marriage by contamination from Swedes? If this is not proof enough that there is no correlation whatsoever between the changing attitudes towards marriage in straight population and gay marriage, what is?
The same kind of phenomenon has happened in deeply Catholic Italy, where gay unions have no recogntition whatsoever.
Or are you really saying that any kind of recognition of the existence of gays destroys marriage? That the only way to save marriage is to discriminate against gays in all aspects of life? Personally I think that if marriage as a concept is so weak that it does not stand the existence of legal recognition of gay unions, maybe it is time for that institution to go.
I live in Finland and I cannot see how gay registred partnerships have had any kind of effect on how straight people view marriage. None. There is not enough evidence to say to what extent gay civil unions strenghten the concept of marriage, but there is enough evidence that the reasons for changes in the institution of marriage stem from somewhere else.
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